
{"id":18156,"date":"2025-12-05T16:42:18","date_gmt":"2025-12-05T09:42:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thesiamsociety.org\/?post_type=activity&#038;p=18156"},"modified":"2026-03-06T09:30:54","modified_gmt":"2026-03-06T02:30:54","slug":"victory-to-ashes","status":"publish","type":"activity","link":"https:\/\/thesiamsociety.org\/th\/activity\/victory-to-ashes\/","title":{"rendered":"Victory to Ashes: War\u2019s Lessons from the Mah\u0101bh\u0101rata"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; fullwidth=&#8221;on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; background_image=&#8221;https:\/\/thesiamsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Jurney-to-Southern-cover-E.jpg&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_fullwidth_header _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; background_image=&#8221;https:\/\/thesiamsociety.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Victory-to-Ashes.jpg&#8221; background_size=&#8221;contain&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; min_height=&#8221;350px&#8221; max_height=&#8221;500px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; background__hover_enabled=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221;][\/et_pb_fullwidth_header][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; collapsed=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;3_5,2_5&#8243; use_custom_gutter=&#8221;on&#8221; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;on|tablet&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;|auto|28px|auto|false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||15px|||&#8221; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;0px||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;3_5&#8243; module_class=&#8221;second-on-mobile&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;off|phone&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_blurb url=&#8221;\/lectures\/&#8221; use_icon=&#8221;on&#8221; font_icon=&#8221;&#x48;||divi||400&#8243; icon_placement=&#8221;left&#8221; image_icon_width=&#8221;24px&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; body_font=&#8221;|700|||||||&#8221; link_option_url=&#8221;\/lectures\/&#8221; icon_font_size=&#8221;24px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; body_text_color__hover_enabled=&#8221;on|hover&#8221; body_text_color__hover=&#8221;rgba(29,39,49,0.7)&#8221;]Back to Lectures[\/et_pb_blurb][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Pre-header message&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _dynamic_attributes=&#8221;content&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||15px||false|false&#8221; custom_css_main_element=&#8221;text-align: left;&#8221; text_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]@ET-DC@eyJkeW5hbWljIjp0cnVlLCJjb250ZW50IjoiY3VzdG9tX21ldGFfcHJlLWhlYWRlcl9tZXNzYWdlIiwic2V0dGluZ3MiOnsiYmVmb3JlIjoiIiwiYWZ0ZXIiOiIiLCJlbmFibGVfaHRtbCI6Im9uIn19@[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Lecture Topic Heading&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _dynamic_attributes=&#8221;content&#8221; header_text_color=&#8221;#8e794c&#8221; max_width_tablet=&#8221;90%&#8221; max_width_phone=&#8221;100%&#8221; max_width_last_edited=&#8221;off|desktop&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||62px|||&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||30px||false|false&#8221; module_alignment_last_edited=&#8221;off|tablet&#8221; custom_css_main_element=&#8221;text-align: left;&#8221; border_width_bottom=&#8221;1px&#8221; border_color_bottom=&#8221;#dbd3d8&#8243; text_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]@ET-DC@eyJkeW5hbWljIjp0cnVlLCJjb250ZW50IjoicG9zdF90aXRsZSIsInNldHRpbmdzIjp7ImJlZm9yZSI6IjxoMT4iLCJhZnRlciI6IjwvaDE+In19@[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; text_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; header_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; width=&#8221;100%&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||40px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;50px||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>The <em>Mah\u0101bh\u0101rata<\/em>, India\u2019s great epic of war, does not simply recount battles but probes the moral, psychological, and political costs of conflict. In the <em>Kar<\/em><em>\u1e47<\/em><em>a<\/em>, <em>\u015aalya<\/em>, and <em>Sauptika<\/em> parvans\u2014the final war books\u2014we see three different registers of violence and their implications for human communities. The <em>Kar<\/em><em>\u1e47<\/em><em>a Parvan<\/em> dramatizes the tragic fate of a warrior of immense valor, whose loyalty and sense of honor cannot shield him from the inevitability of loss, forcing us to consider how ideals of heroism persist in the face of catastrophic war. The <em>\u015aalya Parvan<\/em>, with its long speeches and shifting leadership, shows how persuasion, rhetoric, and morale can be as decisive as weapons, raising questions about responsibility, leadership, and the politics of war. The <em>Sauptika Parvan<\/em>, finally, confronts us with war\u2019s darkest underside: the massacre of sleeping soldiers, an atrocity that obliterates distinctions between victory and defeat and challenges any notion of just war.\u00a0 Together, these books offer a meditation on how wars begin, how they are sustained, and how they corrode the very values they claim to defend. Living in an era marked by military conflict, political polarization, and humanitarian crises, the <em>Mah\u0101bh\u0101rata<\/em>\u2019s vision is always startlingly contemporary. It asks us whether cycles of violence can ever truly end, how peace can be forged in the aftermath of atrocity, and what it means to pursue justice when victory itself is tainted.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_blurb title=&#8221;About the speaker&#8221; icon_placement=&#8221;left&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; header_level=&#8221;h3&#8243; header_font=&#8221;||||||||&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||10px||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deven M. Patel<\/strong>\u00a0is a Sanskrit scholar, translator, and critic. His monograph\u00a0<em>Text to Tradition: The Nai<\/em><em>\u1e63<\/em><em>adh\u012byacarita and Literary Community in South Asia<\/em>\u00a0(2014) is a landmark study of one of Sanskrit literature\u2019s canonical literary works viewed through the lens of eight centuries of critical reception. He has also published on hermeneutics and translation practices, linguistics, and poetics in ancient and medieval India. 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